Meret ([info]meret) wrote in [info]spn_heavymeta,
A few thoughts about something in the last scene of SPN 4.21 and it's symbolism.

The shot of Sam breaking the mirror with Dean's face stayed in my head until I finally decided to look up what symbolism is associated with mirrors and the breaking of them. Here's what I found.

This site is talking about mirrors in dreams, but I think it still applies. From Dream Symbol Mirror:
Dreaming that you are looking through a two-way mirror indicates that you are coming face to face with some inner or worldly issue. What you see is related to your persona and unconscious. Seeing images through the mirror may be a safe way for you to consider and/or confront material from your unconscious. Mirrors symbolize the imagination and a link between the conscious and unconscious. Dreaming that you are being watched through a two-way mirror, suggests that you feel you are being scrutinized and criticized.

Both of the guys at the end of the ep are coming face to face with their worst fears. For Dean it's that Sam can't be saved, and for Sam it's that he's a monster. I think that counts as an "inner or worldly issue . . . related to [their] persona and unconscious." And they both feel they are being scrutinized and criticized.

From the same site:
To break a mirror in your dream, suggests that you are breaking an old image of yourself. You may be putting an end to an old habit. . . . Seeing a cracked or broken mirror in your dream represents a poor or distorted self-image. Alternatively, it suggests that you have put an end to your old habits and ways.

I can see both of them having a poor or distorted self image. Sam by viewing himself as a monster deep down,. and Dean by thinking it's his job to save Sam. I do wonder which, if either, of them is going to be putting to an end to that habit. Both?

I saved the best for last. From Yahoo! Answers:
the mirror is a symbol of self knowledge,and revelation because a mirror reflects all phenomena without distinction. it is also a symbol of visual form. by tradition every mirror is also gateway to the Other World like the palace of the demoness Lilith the first wife of Adam.

0.0 (I don't think Syberian is EK, SG, or RS, but the idea did enter my mind!) So does the mirror being broken mean the gateway is gone? Is it foreshadowing that the last seal won't be broken, and that Lilith will die?

  • Post a new comment

    Error

    Your IP address will be recorded 

  • 10 comments

[info]shorofsky

May 9 2009, 07:26:53 UTC 3 years ago

Super interesting points! I never knew that mirrors could be gateways to Lillith's palace! Wow.

[info]meret

May 9 2009, 07:47:46 UTC 3 years ago

Thanks! :) My jaw actually dropped when I read that about Lilith's palace! I had no idea.

[info]shorofsky

May 9 2009, 10:33:57 UTC 3 years ago

Neither did I! I was like "SHITCRAPOMGOMGOMG!" when I read that and all sorts of interpretations popped into my head, none of which, though are coherent yet.

[info]fannishliss

May 9 2009, 13:07:41 UTC 3 years ago

two words : Bloody Mary.

not that i have ANY IDEA why both their eyes bled in that episode, but they did shatter the mirror that reflected their deep feeling of guilt at hurting their family member.

[info]meret

May 10 2009, 01:21:23 UTC 3 years ago

not that i have ANY IDEA why both their eyes bled in that episode

IIRC Sam's secret was he had dreamed about Jessica burning on the ceiling before it actually happened, but never told her. EK says he knows why Dean's eyes bled, and it will be revealed in time. We'll see. :)

[info]lovebanshee

May 10 2009, 06:28:40 UTC 3 years ago

You know, I always thought that Bloody Mary was able to make both their eyes bleed because since she was out of the mirror, she was more potent and could just kill anyone randomly. Like they didn't need a dark secret anymore, even though Sam did and Dean didn't appear to. I'm thinking Show would have answered that question in S1 if it was ever going to be answered because SPN is a master at dropping balls and picking them back up somewhere along the way. They don't tend to leave any loose ends hanging.

*scootches back* sry for bumping in...

[info]supernarttu

May 10 2009, 20:50:50 UTC 3 years ago

and I thought i was the only one...

ITA
This is what I thought the very first time when I saw it so it makes sense to me... :)

I don't mind if Dean does have some secret... but he doesn't really have to, 's all i'm sayin'.

[info]meret

May 11 2009, 02:42:09 UTC 3 years ago

I'm thinking Show would have answered that question in S1 if it was ever going to be answered because SPN is a master at dropping balls and picking them back up somewhere along the way. They don't tend to leave any loose ends hanging.

The interview where EK said he knew what Dean's secret was took place in season 2 IIRC. Mary tells Sam she's sorry in season one in the ep in their old house. We didn't learn why until this season when Castiel sends Dean back in time. EK still has next season to make good on Dean's secret. Plus we still haven't learned how John knew Dean might have to kill Sam, or why Ruby is different, assuming she isn't pretending to be good, than other demons.

*scootches back* sry for bumping in...

It's a public post. Everyone is welcome. The more the merrier as far as I'm concerned. :)

[info]yourlibrarian

May 9 2009, 16:49:58 UTC 3 years ago

To break a mirror in your dream, suggests that you are breaking an old image of yourself. You may be putting an end to an old habit

Like protecting Sam. Great find!

I've been assuming all along that the last seal won't break, because if they can't show a demon war on their budget, how will they show the apocalypse? Besides, to the average fan, what happens with S&D is far more important than the whole world collapsing ;D

[info]meret

May 10 2009, 01:22:24 UTC 3 years ago

Like protecting Sam. Great find!

Thanks! I was amazed at how well it fit. :)

I've been assuming all along that the last seal won't break, because if they can't show a demon war on their budget, how will they show the apocalypse?

Good point. :)
Create an Account
Forgot your login or password?
Facebook Twitter More login options
English • Español • Deutsch • Русский…